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June 29, 2007
Gender and Fan Studies (Round Five, Part Two): Geoffrey Long and Catherine TosenbergerWhere the Wind Blows: The Matter of Authorship Geoffrey: Ah, so we've arrived at the point in this academic conversation when we both devolve into real, true fanboy/fangirl engagement -- what the hell is up with that Supernatural "prequel" comic anyway? The art is horrible and the writing isn't much better! I swear to God, I was so stoked when I found the first issue at my comic shop, but when I got it home and cracked it open I was so disappointed that I didn't even bother to finish reading it. Ugh. A-hem. Back to the topic at hand... I think this is one area where my own experience as a storyteller colors my attitude towards hierarchies of canon and authorship. When I tell a story, I'm creating a group of characters, a world in which they'll exist, and the series of events that will happen to them. I am the author of that story, and these are my creations. If someone else wants to tell a story featuring my characters, it feels like it should be up to me to determine whether or not the events they describe are actually 'canon' or not. If I accept those events as canon, I'm also granting that person the right to be considered an author of this narrative -- literally 'authorizing' them. If I don't, then I have options. I can sue, in an attempt to make sure that no one else plays with my toys, but I personally firmly believe that this is a bad way to go unless someone's making money off of my work illegally or that they're passing off what they're creating as official canon. A better option is to acknowledge the existence of that story as fan fiction, and recognize that it exists in a sort of orbit around the original creation. This is where things get particularly messy -- is it "equally viable as literature", or is it permanently tainted as a 'lesser' creation, since that person didn't invent that story from whole cloth? How much distance from the original creation is required for something to be considered viable as literature? Bookstores are filled with accepted literature that openly declare themselves to be reinterpretations of a classic, but there's still a distinct difference between Margaret Mitchell's 1939 novel Gone with the Wind, Alexandra Ripley's 1991 Scarlett, Alice Randall's 1992 The Wind Done Gone, and a piece of fanfic I might post to my blog tonight featuring Scarlett making out with Darth Vader. Interestingly, while both books hit #1 on the New York Times bestseller lists, Wikipedia includes Ripley's Scarlett, which is a direct continuation of Gone with the Wind, in the 'fan fiction' category and Randall's The Wind Done Gone, a retelling of the story from the point of view of the slaves, in the 'parodies' category. This suggests that the popular perception of both works is as 'second-tier' creations, despite the fact that Publisher's Weekly referred to The Wind Done Gone as "a spirited reimagination of Mitchell's world, dependent on its predecessor for its context but independent in form and voice". To my mind, The Wind Done Gone is still lessened somewhat by its not being a wholly independent creation, but it is executed with enough originality and style that it can be considered viable as literature. In other words, it can stand on its own two feet. Scarlett, on the other hand, can't make the same claim, and therefore suffers from the same drop in perceived validity as most fan fiction. Were I Margaret Mitchell, I would most likely insist that Scarlett is an unauthorized piece of fanfic and should only be distributed via unofficial channels, but that The Wind Done Gone is different enough that it's a sort of 'alternate reality' spin on my characters. I might still ask for a cut of the profits, since Randall is still using my copyrighted work as a jump-off point, but that it's a distinct enough creation that it's unlikely to be confused for my own stuff... Maybe. It's a fascinating hypothetical. Regarding the Scarlett/Vader slash, I think that such a thing would be hard to take seriously unless it was done very, very, very, very well. (Bonus points to the first reader who posts such a mash-up to YouTube.) As for how transmedia narratives affect these interpretations, I'm not entirely sure, to be honest. I tend to look at transmedia extensions along a primarily timeline-based set of axes, so that negative capability tends to refer to events in characters' pasts or futures that haven't been explored by the story yet. To my mind, most slash fiction isn't meant to be considered in-canon, whereas transmedia narratives use negative capability to hint at events that have happened (or will happen) in-canon. In particular, most slash fiction that I've seen doesn't aim to fill in chronological gaps so much as posit a kind of "What If?" re-interpretation, but I'm not at all comfortable making sweeping claims about this. What do you think?
Catherine: Oh, god, if we're going to talk about the comics, we'll be here till next MONTH at least. So I shall wrench myself away and ask, devolve? I'm usually in that headspace of fangirl enthusiasm, only changing my language to reflect the audience and circumstances; or maybe that's just my excuse for sticking a, well, "discussion" might be overstating it, but a something about "Luscious" Malfoy and his pimp cane into my dissertation. Pimp canes aside, I'm uncomfortable with drawing a strict demarcation between "academic" responses and "fannish" responses, because at least for me, they're really not all that different -- I respond intellectually *and* emotionally *and* libidinally *and* et cetera to things I'm interested in; as I said, the issue is one of language, and the context in which I use that language -- I pretty freely mix up stereotypically "academic" and "fannish" modes of discourse in both settings, usually unconsciously. (My academic writing has been criticized for being flippant, but I don't think that has anything to do with some kind of "inappropriate" leakage of fan discourse; my non-fannish dissertation director has a similar style, which means he doesn't stop me when I do it.) And I really wonder if we can even talk about fannish discourse as if it's a coherent thing -- there's the stereotype of pure emotionalism, sure, but intellectual engagement is as much a part of fandom as lustful/geekish squeeing. Fan discourse contains multitudes of acceptable dicourses, and the ratio of analysis to squee (or whatever) is determined by context and the individual fan. Fan Fiction as Literature? Geoffrey: First, a giant 'mea culpa' regarding some of the things in my last email. For starters, my using 'slash' to describe a hetero hook-up was a big smack-your-head "duh, I knew that" moment. (I have officially revealed my outsider/n00b status in fanfic studies. Curses!) Also, to clarify, by 'devolve into real, true fanboy/fangirl engagement' I only meant shifting into more casual language and analysis instead of the more highfalutin' "academic" language. I share your attitude towards academic writing -- as Henry will certainly attest, the majority of my thesis was written as playfully and as casually as I could get away with... As for the rest, you're right -- I could have picked better examples, and I could have made my case more clearly. Again, mea culpa! I'm having trouble putting my finger on what exactly it would take to make a piece of fanfic considered 'literature' in the popular sense -- not just to have fanfic as a form be recognized as having the potential to be literature, or to have a piece of already-qualified literature be understood as fanfic (as with March, which has now been added to my to-read pile, thanks for that), but to have a piece of Harry Potter fanfic be declared literature. I'm wondering if the use of existing characters, especially contemporary characters, might prove problematic in the same way that Warhol's use of a can of soup, or Duchamp's use of a urinal, renders those works problematic to a certain audience. Some audiences completely accept those pieces as art, but others will never consider them to be of the same caliber as the Mona Lisa because of their unorthodox origins. Is that the distinction that makes it problematic? The 'quality' of the source material? Would fanfic about Jesus or the characters from Little Women be more widely accepted as viable literature than fanfic about Draco or the Winchesters? I'm also struggling to figure out where something like Arkham Asylum fits into this. Arkham Asylum is, after all, "just" a Batman story, but the style and quality of its art and its language seem to make it more viable for consideration as art. It's not fanfic, of course, but it does use existing characters, so that might help us narrow this down a bit. What do you think?
Catherine: Since we're talking language, I have my own mea culpa: I should have clarified that I tend to use "literature" in a very broad "written prose, poetry, and drama" sense (and yes I know that's vague), and not as a term that marks artistic quality (i.e., "This isn't just a romance novel, it's literature!" -- a statement that makes me want to throw things). For me, fanfiction *is* literature -- it's written fiction -- that's not commercially published. I can see why there are those connotations, though; commercial publication lends such an aura of... respectability. It's been vetted by somebody, somewhere, who decided that *this* story was fit to sell. But "possibly commercially successful" and "aesthetically successful" are not the same thing. But the thing is, just because fanfiction hasn't -- and often can't, when we're talking about fanfic for in-copyright texts -- be commercially published, that doesn't mean it somehow isn't literature, and has no chance of being *good* literature, at that. All those recursive/archontic texts we've listed that have been commercially published are recursive to source texts that are a) out of copyright, and b) well-known enough to ensure a sizable clued-in audience. Also, the ones we named were all novels; while there are certainly a number of novel-length fanfics, there's an enormous amount of short stories, novellas, drabbles, even poems -- all of which are even more difficult to sell, even if they could be published.
A lot of the time, a written piece of work is declined by a publisher not because it's particularly poorly written, but because the publisher doesn't perceive a market for it -- and, of course, this is in no way restricted to just TV shows. I think fanfic tends to get a bad rap because a casual fan might wander into a fanfic site, read some slash fiction and run screaming, or read a particularly silly piece of fanfic and not take the rest seriously. These are the fanfic sections that explore the more radical ends of the "what ifs", but what about fanfic that deliberately maintains the tone of the 'parent' text and simply fills a narrative void that whatever corporate Powers That Be simply don't view as sufficiently profitable? Obviously building a system to cater to explicit Wincest fans is tricky as hell, but if Supernatural's ratings were too low for the show to be renewed next season, how would you build a system for fanfic to officially serve as a continuation for just such a cancelled series?
Catherine: The thing is, is that I really don't know how much the idea of being "validated," as it were, by the Official Copyright Holders or whomever, is what most fans want -- or, at least, what they're aiming for. There is an enormous amount of pleasure to be had in the concept of *playing* with these characters, with this world, as a perfectly legitimate activity in and of itself; the stamp of canon approval might be nice, but it isn't *necessary*. Wiki-Fic? Despite the object lessons gleaned from the widespread derision of Fanlib.com earlier on this blog, I think such a system could be developed to give fans of a property an official, legal way to share their creations -- and to give newcomers the encouragement they'd need to start. If I ever create a set of characters or a world that gains a strong fan following, after I'd told the story that I wanted to tell I'd be extremely interested in setting up a site where fans could not only write and share their own "further adventures of" stories, but perhaps have the opportunity to vote on what fan-generated stories would become canon moving forward. Can you imagine, as an author, coming back to your own creations one, three, five, ten years later and finding out what happened in your characters' lives? Further, can you imagine then having to qualify to write another story with your own characters? If Lucas had to undergo such a process before the prequels were greenlit, would we have been subjected to Jar-Jar Binks? How long would Jar-Jar survive in a democratically-determined Star Wars canon? A similar situation actually happened to the Wachowski Brothers when The Matrix MMO went online. During the course of the game, a bunch of players managed to orchestrate the death of Morpheus. Under the "old rules", creators might have rebooted the server, ignored the event, or, as in the case of the assassination of Lord British in Ultima Online, banned the players responsible. The Wachowskis, however, were intrigued by this turn of events and simply made it canon. What would happen if that sort of attitude were more widespread? Would the generation, evaluation, and incorporation of fan contributions into narrative canon in effect become a plausible model for interactive narratives, and would we, as audiences, be willing to subject ourselves to this sort of "WikiFic"?
Catherine: I don't know - while I think, in theory, that that kind of collaborative world-building is cool, I have serious doubts about the way it would work in practice; I think institutionalizing the fanfic, holding the bone out to fans that their stories, if they're *really special*, might become canon is a way of shutting down creativity, because then everyone's competing to be Prom Queen. Not that fandom is all sunshine and daisies until a creator starts meddling, and there's certainly some jockeying for closeness to the creators in some segments of fandom, but. Something like that would really narrow down all that lovely negative capability that gives fanfic writers their space to work. Everyone loves seeing their pet theories/interpretations validated by canon, but not all fans are comfortable with the concept of that much cross-pollination between creators and fandom: some people have very strong views that canon is Their Space, and fandom is Our Space. Geoffrey: All excellent points, especially the bits about the phantom stories of VC Andrews. When I was a kid I loved the Hardy Boys mysteries, and I was shattered when I discovered that Franklin W. Dixon had not actually written hundreds of stories of Frank and Joe over the better part of a century. (There's a story right there -- the epic tale of an immortal children's adventure-book writer... Hob Gadling maintaining the same pseudonym for 500 years -- ONLY HIS PUBLISHER KNOWS... Hmm...) I suppose, at the end of the day, what it all boils down to for me is the impossible cat-herding of getting everyone to agree on what degree of validation fanfic needs, or even wants. The camp that feels that any story set to paper (or screen or whatever) is equally valid as literature understandably screams, "Validation? We don't need no steenkin' validation!" These firebrands have a more punk, DIY mentality towards the creation of fanfic, and that's cool. Where I think we run into trouble is when this group gets aggregated with another, more traditional camp that wants to see fanfic considered as not just literature, but valid candidates for Literature, wants to see the integration of fanon into canon, and so on. I still think this latter camp faces the same challenges as Warhol's soup cans due to the popular shift in mindset required; just as the public struggled to accept Pop Art as Art, this camp faces an uphill battle getting fanfic accepted not as derivative literature but as Literature. Personally, I have a foot in both camps -- I think that, just like comics, fanfic should be considered as literature, but in order for it to transcend literature and achieve Literature, the key is going to be artful execution and style, as is seen in March---- -or The Wind Done Gone. This, of course, teeters on the edge of the same intellectual wankery that's plagued Art and Literature and so on for years... Is fandom as a whole willing to surrender its punk respectability in exchange for consideration as Literature? I think fandom should abandon this whole attempt to achieve acceptance and let its freak flag fly -- do its own thing, celebrate its independence and free-for-all mentality and focus on creating the greatest, craziest, most imaginative, most fulfilling, and just plain best work that it possibly can, and then force academia to recognize that as undeniably Art or Literature or whatever. That worked for Art Spiegelman and Maus, for Neil Gaiman and Sandman, and video games are trending that way with things like Myst, Shadow of the Colossus and even the Columbine game that got banned from the festivals. As for negative capability, I think the fun is in filling in the gaps as a reader with your own imagination, and then seeing how closely the author's eventual revelations resemble your guesses. The desire to find that out drives further consumption and exploration of the author's work, which is both entertaining for the audience (minus missteps like midichlorians, of course) and fiscally rewarding for the author. I think the trouble that fanfic poses for this model isn't the sharing of these audience-generated guesses, hypotheses and explorations, but the attempt to obliterate the elevation of the author's position, of canon. If my story about how Draco Malfoy meets his death at Harry's hands is considered of equal value to where J. K. Rowling takes the story, then this 'game' loses its 'win' condition. It's more democratic, perhaps, but personally speaking I'd be really sad to lose that enjoyment -- and, as someone who has always wanted to be a storyteller, I think losing the elevated status of 'authorship' would be a sad thing indeed. Finally, as for gender... Is my way of thinking about fandom and negative capability inherently colored by the fact that my reproductive organs are on the outside instead of the inside? Is my preference for stories that fill in the gaps about events, characters or places over stories that fill in the gaps about interpersonal relationships and contingencies somehow imprinted on the same strands of my DNA that make my arms and chest furry, or imprinted on my brain by the same social structures that taught me to wear black T-shirts and jeans instead of sundresses and flip-flops on the weekends? I honestly don't know. It's a fascinating, complicated and dangerous area of thought. What I do know is that I'm a feminist, but I'm also a straight white guy. I'd like to sign off by asking that people remember to consider whether the gender-based assertions flying around the room mightn't be just as sexist as the systems they're railing against. Personally, what I'd like to see is a race- and gender-blind meritocracy, but I'm enough of a realist to realize that may be unattainable. Still, people should never be denied opportunities or respect just because they're female, because they're African- -American, because they're Asian, because they're overweight, because they're underweight, because they're redheads, because they're blonde, because they're Catholic, because they're Wiccan, because they're homosexual, because they're heterosexual, because they're male, because they're Caucasian, ad infinitum and ad nauseum. When we consider gender in fan studies, we all too often run the risk of making grand statements like "fanfic is written by women and the system is dominated by men, so this is clearly a case of The Man keeping womyn down", which makes us straight white guys cringe, no matter whose 'camp' we're in. As is everything everywhere, life is just more complicated than such oversimplifications can accurately represent ? and, at the end of the day, no one likes to feel like they're being reduced to an Other.
Catherine: I am totally punk rock, man. The do-it-your-own-damn-self mentality of fandom is its greatest strength, and the source of its freedom. But the thing is, I *don't* think that's incompatible with capital-l Literature at all; maybe it's because my background is in folklore, but I see absolutely no reason why institutional approval should function as some kind of prerequisite for serious consideration of something as a "legitimate" work of art. And the reason I keep harping on Respectable Literary Precedent for fanfic is to show that hey, using other people's characters is *already* something that capital-L literature does, and has been doing for a long time; therefore, it's disingenuous to try and keep fanfic out of consideration in those aesthetic wankery stakes. Because there is a lot of seriously good fanfic out there, and the writers deserve to be recognized as the artists they are. 12 CommentsHenry Jenkins is the Provost's Professor of Communications, Journalism, and Cinematic Art at the University of Southern California. Until recently, he served as the co-founder of the Comparative Media Studies Program at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. More about Henry Jenkins is available here. |
Have been swamped with other work and those pesky real due dates, so cannot participate as much as I'd like, Geoffrey and Catherine, but I'd like to ask where, in your sense of things, does Real People Fiction (whether Slash or not--there is gen, het, and slash RP stories) fit into your categorizations and theories?
I've been struck (and did a paper for last year's Slash Fiction Day) about how the default for most academics is still Fictional People Fiction despite the growing popularity of RPF (and the fact that some erotic real people fic has been published (and is being published, featuring erotic fantasies about celebrities).
I write both FPF and RPF in LOTR fandom(s), and my feeling is that writing RPF is a lot more like writing 'original' fiction (in that I'm not working against constraints of a pre-existing plot--and I tend to ignore even the tenuous and fluid "canon" that exists because, in my mind, it's just PR/marketing) than writing FPF is. Some fans actually claim that RPF isn't "fan fiction" (others say it is).
Fans agree on one thing: that fans do not agree!
I'm also wondering how useful it is to slur all categories of derivative fictions together as your comments here seem to tend do do. My medievalist friend can point to sections in the Booke of Marjorie Kempe (written from her dictation) that present her characters as a self-insert in a revision of the narrative of the Birth of Jesus, bustling around, giving Mary a drink of water, swaddling the infant Jesus). The medieval mentalitie regarding narrative texts was much different, and what we call copying was encouraged (she is an historian so works with medieval sermons, not Chaucer). So, Bible fic, perhaps, or derivative fiction?--but does ignoring historical contexts, meanings, hierarchies, etc. to claim a universal status for fan fiction strike you all as problematic? (That just means I'd like to see more work done on developing categories, ideas, similarities/differences).
I'm writing an essay for Mythcon where I queer Harold Bloom to argue that "slash" exists in "original" genre fantasy by women writers as well as in fan fiction, but that is not saying fan fiction = "original" fiction (I put "original" in scare quotes because there is nothing new under the sun, and the idea of a pure new original story or character cannot be supported in any way that I've seen in the past--writers are always writing in dialogue with and against previous works).
There's a very simple explanation of why "The Wind Done Gone" is described as a parody and "Scarlett" was not. "Scarlett" was authorized by the holders of the copyright; "The Wind Done Gone" was not.
There's a judicially created fair use exemption for parody, and none for AUs, although I think that AU is a much more accurate description of "The Wind Done Gone" than parody.
The legal status of derivative works of public domain works is quite clear: if you want to write one, nobody is in any position to stop you. For example, today's NY Times includes a discussion of "The Gentle Axe," which I would call a "Crime and Punishment" time-stamp fic--it's the further adventures of Porfiry Petrovich.
Note, however, that whether a new work infringes the copyright of an older work or not has a grand total of zip to do with whether the new work is well-written or not.
Okay, this helps clear up my misunderstanding in a comment (as-yet-unapproved) on the first half. Negative capability is a property of texts; I had misunderstood it as a property of readers. A text with negative capability is a text that is (whose author is?) satisfied with gaps, whereas a more readerly text has been tidied up and mortared over. In that case, though, aren't fans still doing something we're not supposed to by filling in the gaps? Whereas transmedia storytelling seems to be post-publication tidying. That is, authorization seems to interact with the idea of negative capability as described here.
Maybe one difference between what I think of as fannish activity and the transmedia stories described here is that -- when the transmedia productions are canonical or even promotable to canon, as Lucas says -- then, if you do see them as an integrated whole, they take away the negative capability of the isolated starter text. Would we say that the first chapter of a novel has negative capability? The first Sherlock Holmes story? (I don't want to presuppose an answer. But I'm trying to figure out how transmedia storytelling and fan productions overlap and diverge.)
Executrix: You know when something is so clear in your head that you hallucinate that you actually put it down on the page? I was too busy making fun of Scarlett to notice that I completely left out the bit about it being authorized by the Mitchell estate -- which also makes it a not-very-good example. :) Thank you very much for pointing that out, and for clarifying the Fair Use terms. This is why I find the issue of "publishable" so problematic as some kind of marker of quality, because there are so many factors beyond aesthetics that go into making something able to be published, including copyright issues.
Rebecca, if I understand you correctly, then I'd want to disagree that seeing a (however-constructed) canon as a whole takes away from the negative capability of the individual parts. I think it is much more common for the opposite to be true. While not Doyle's shining moment, A Study in Scarlet is an organic whole, much more so than the canon as a whole. Once the other stories begin developing that word and contradicting each other, however, I think the gaps actually increase, as we begin to understamd just how little we actually know.
Robin,
Shit happened, history is fabrication That's probably a step more extreme than 'canon is PR/marketing fluff.' And I'm probably a bit fixated on the answers David Milch provided fourteen months ago in an interview with Professor Thorburn at MIT
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/383/
I think he nails insightful responses to questions about negative capability, attribution and stunting people of class, race and gender with an inspiring brilliance.
Catherine said:
This is why I find the issue of "publishable" so problematic as some kind of marker of quality, because there are so many factors beyond aesthetics that go into making something able to be published, including copyright issues.
Not everybody agrees on which works belong in the classification, but *everybody* agrees that a vast amount of absolutely awful rubbish gets published.
And, in the media world, there are plenty of lousy TV series and rotten movies, or series that start out good and jump the shark. That's one reason for the fannish impulse to write something that's better than the nonsense your favorite actor is required to spout. (In the immortal words of Harrison Ford, "Y'know, George, you can TYPE this shit but you sure can't say it.")
(PS--that's why it's hard to proofread one's own copy--because we see what we MEANT to write, not what's on the page.)
(PS--that's why it's hard to proofread one's own copy--because we see what we MEANT to write, not what's on the page.)
And that's why God, in her infinite wisdom, created audiences; other people who see (or don't see) what "we" were driving at, and respond appropriately. From them, we learn to present the information to better effect.
I believe that all popular media are governed by forces that compromise authorial intent differently. Movies, television, plays and on&on treat writers with various combinations of reverance and contempt. These very collaborative enterprises all make money more important than the negative capability that moves the pen of the writer and the eye of the beholder to share the same divine embrace.
Oh come on! The spn comic isn't so bad! I'm loving it!
The last time I looked (a few minutes ago) both Amazon and iTunes DO NOT reward reviewers for feedback about product.
In the words of Malcolm Reynolds' sainted mother,
"Brand the buyer. 's the one most likely to stray."
I REALLY wonder what statistical effect on The Long Tail that change in policy would have, if (paradoxically) rather than depleting my income, consumption of product resulted in enhancement of my capability to consume the available product of a particular source. Seems like a natural step in the evolution of the transformation of "atoms to bits". The impediment to that change looks like the profit motive of middlemen to prosper at my expense.
Also, just a quick detail correction for the record: in the Matrix Online MMORPG, the death of Morpheus wasn't orchestrated by the players, awesome as that would have been -- it was a thoroughly scripted event planned well in advance by the game leads, used to set the next 12 months of the plot arc into motion as players worked together (and against each other) in a race to find out who Morpheus' assassin was, and why.
It would have been awesome if the creators were willing to be that responsive to player decisions, and I expect it'll happen at some point -- if, indeed, it hasn't already happened somewhere. But it didn't happen in the Matrix Online.
wikific is an interesting idea. Thanks for that.
I'm sure it is possible to wrangle the collective intellect of folks on the front end of a story (transmedia) in a positive way to create something great.
Does anyone know examples of this wikific system executed? I'm interested to read further on how it was done.
Jeromy